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The real needs of a medical marijuana program and its state.


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deovindice

Wed Dec 02 2009, 02:30PM

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First off, let me tell you, I am a Medical Marijuana Patient in Los Angeles California, I have been involved with marijuana activism since 1985 (at the age of 14).

The day I truely became conscience of the realities of medical usage wasn't in 1985, that was about getting high really, but now looking back, i am not so certain.

Today I have trouble breathing, and I must attest to the reality that cannabis sativa lygustrum is indeed great releif, I really don't think I could live with out it at this point in time, and mind you, cannabis is addictive psychologically but not physically, BUT.. the reality of my situation is this, air is physically addictive and neccessary and I get alot more of it after smoking or vaporizing marijuana.

Our state is having a huge problem with marijuana, alot of it is from misunderstanding, some is from non-consideration, to really see it you have to see the real big picture, not the small stuff they dwell on, lets talk about how a state should really be using a medical marijuana program from start to finish, some of this would be much better if i had the actual numbers to show, maybe i can attain some of that at a later date, if the realities of this are wanted to be researched i will submit to a iq test, which WILL show me as a natural born visual mathmetician, my best points are my visual spacial skills, i think what i am wanting to express is the whole and correct veiw on the subject.

First off, the marijuana needs to be available to the patients, to protect the integrity of the medication, the state should be growing it. The state needs to open a grow operation dedicated solely to keeping of mother plants and strain research, ensuring the strains persist and the medical effects of each can be truely studied and hybrids designed for pin-point (meaning medicating exactly what is needed) medications.

The next thing to do would be to open up a state grow op, several in fact, which would employ growers all levels and also, to employ G.R. recipients for the benefits which they receive at the cost of the state, setting that to a fairer standard. If all G.R. recipients, who are NOT DISABLED were asked if they would mind tending plants for lets say 4 hours a week for their benefits they would surely love the opportunity. The thought that will go through your mind is this, they will steal the medicine, so, you put a couple police officers in there to watch over, and if they did take a little, so what, there would be tons anyways, from nature.. to nature (man is indeed part of nature). but why would the state not care that someone did that? simple answer there too, if the feds did what was right, they would change the federal drug status, making marijuana a class 2 or possibly as low as a class 4 drug, it should be a non considered drug really anyways (meaning it should be considered a natural plant as described in genesis 1:11 and 1:12 and a blessing from god and not a drug at all), if the feds did that then marijuana would be legal right? so what we do is we recognise it as legal in california, and then the state learns business all over, and hopefully honestly this time.

if the state took the time to grow the plant, the next question is how is the "medicine" distributed? The dispensaries are actually not doing that bad as they are made to sound, it will have to remain on a sale level.

I don't think I am wording this right, maybe I need to try another way..

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king, thank god for pencils.

deovindice

Wed Dec 02 2009, 03:29PM

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part 1, growth of marijuana.

we as the state of california should recognise the need for a conservatory to be created for the protection of medical strains of marijuana and their research so that truely medical strains are not lost to negligence.

we should also recognise that the state should be overseeing the growth of the marijuana so that the method of growth, what was used (fertilisers or whatever or nothing at all) etc is known to the purchaser.

in recognition of medical usage, we as a state should recognise that if it were handled correctly, once medical use was established, the federal drug classification should be changed, but they refuse to do the right thing, knowing it is unjust persecution of its nations down-trodden. Marijuana should be a class 2 at best, but really it should be more like a class 5 drug, like aspirin.

With that reality in mind, we should recognise marijuana as a legal drug inside the state of california, which means anyone should be able to buy it, as far as age, the state will say 21 i am sure, myself, i would say 13, but to be fair to all, 18 is a fair age for NON-MEDICAL purchase, and any age for true authentic medical purposes.

so if the state opened a conservatory, and worked towards preserving the strains, then opened grow houses to grow the medicine so that we knew the integrity was right, the next step would be distribution, and i think you will be shocked by the realities that the MMP should be working to help law enforcement in ways they arent seeing.

imagine this..

state grows weed at a county level, uses G.R. recipients as voluntary labor, employs growers to over see the operation (i can reccommend many many fantastic people for those positions myself). Uses this to help pay for the G.R. the state pays out, tit for tat, and the state could be overly fair about it as well.

takes the medicine it has grown to the dispensary, put the dispensary INSIDE of the local police stations, each one of them should have a dispensary inside, in case of emergency, no joke.

so now you have all the weed inside the police station, medical patients, and cannabis legalised, so what to do then? thats easy, if you have a medical card, and it is for genuine medical reasons (i dont mean the current cards for broken fingers years ago and stuff, i mean real medical usage). then you should be able to go to the police station any hour of the day and you should be greeted bt 2 local police officers at the gate, one with a scanner to scan your ID, if the ID says valid medical, then he shoul;d be able to enter and purchase his medicine at a realistic medical amount of reimbursement for the medicine and not the over inflated unregulated cost as it is now, it needs to be figured as the cost of it all is truelly understood. But then, along comes jones, and he isn't a medical card carrier, thats ok, we can help you too, first off, his ID is scanned, like every one elses, no matter if he is from california, idaho or taiwan, if he is a human and alive in the state of california, marijuana recognised as legal means we can help you attain it here, but since you don't have medical reasons, that will be a 2 dollar entry fee into the dispensary, payable to the county, thank you, and they will line up by the droves to buy, so now, how do you regulate that part? easy, no medical card, you are restricted to 1 gram of marijuana, but then because the gram isn't being used for medical reasons, there should be another 2$ sin tax on it, paid to the state, now we have the state and county working together, and both profiting, but i think i failed to mention, you will be checked for warrents when you are scanned, which will alleiviate street hours on the current police force, but by this all happening, the sale of marijuana outside of the police station to non-medical card carriers should be considered a misdemeaner and carry a fine as well.

with prohibition, one thing always shows true, when it is repealled, it diminishes, meaning this, when marijuana is legalised and it is treated as it should be here in california, less and less people will do it, thats aproven fact, so you have to go into it knowing it is a state of diminishing returns to begin with.

if the police were watching the dispensary, from the station, then the dispensary wouldn't be likely to be robbed, so no real need to go through tons of security stuff, besides, potheads arent aggressive, not that you won't find others in the crowd that would come and go, because you would.

as far as growing marijuana in california, that should be legal too, as much as you want to grow, but you cant sell it, its for your personal use only. the people that grow on public lands? so what.. legalise the plant and accept that as a blessing, for it will help clean the air and enrich the soil, thats a great thing really, jack herers dream needs recognised for what it really is, simple truth..

before i forget to mention, the marijuana plants that the state grows, and seperated the flowers from, well, all branches should be removed and given to the hash makers, and then all stalks should be taken to a place where it can be cut up into 3/4 inch peices so it can be used to make homes for the poor in the same manner as the bridge was made in france, for ideas of what i mean see this linkor maybe here.

there are so many solutions to todays problems all tied up in hemp, and the state is wandering around blindly like idiots and losing so so much, and it really needs fixed.

so now you have medical and non medical usage in the state, what about consumption? medical should be acceptable anywhere, so long as in a vaporizer (in areas with oxygen in use no porcelain stone vaporizers should be allowed, plug in or self heating models only, no oxygen/explosive materials, a vapor genie type vaporizer should be considered perfectly fine (which is most places), the state has acknowledged that smoking is carcinogenic, which i think is a load of bunk when it comes to cannabis, but still, they have done that, so lets say this, smoking marijuana (meaning NOT vaporizing but actually burning the plant matter) should be kept as it is under california H&S 11362.79 (but special mention should be made to the ideas and notions of manners and air and neighbors) but vaporization allowed in areas where smoking is prohibited for medical reasons, but also, smoking in heavily congested areas should be discouraged, what i mean is this, common sense should be more common, theres a way to handle everything, and a way to mishandle everything too, and the state is doing great at the later, and so are the current patients.

a good example of what i mean is this, i live on the streets, i am a homeless man, i have no qualm admitting it to you, and I live in the Hollywood California area, I spend a great deal of time on Hollywood BLVD, near Highland Ave, which is a heavily congested area, though it is legal for me to smoke there because i have a medical card, there are still others that don't smoke passing through, and I can't really claim to own all the right to the air where i am when i am surrounded by others, so smoking should be taken at least a minimal distance from non-smokers to show respect for their right to not having to smell it, I don't mind that, I have a vaporizer as well, no carcinogens, no odor really, so that is actually a gesture of politeness in my eyes, to use a vaporizer, but a vaporizer is no replacement for smoking, and the patient will find the desire to smoke from time to time, so they should move away a little bit so as to show just a smidgeon of respect for others, if there are, hollywood blvd late night when it is empty should be another story, basically, people shoul dbe smart enough to judge for themselves correctly and be considerate enough of others that nothing like that should have to be mentioned, and i forgot to mention, non medical usage, should be treated the same, with a few changes, no smoking in areas means no vaporizing for nonmedical persons as well, they should also be required to follow California H&S 11362.79 as well as the medical MJ patients and still consider the politeness of their actions and where they are and the people around them.

if the state protected, grew, sold marijuana, then they could justifiably expect payment for such, and that payment could be used to help with medi-cal, G.R. and the cost of the local PD, but i would hope money made in this manner would NEVER be used for weapons for the police department, only hours paid to its officers in service to the MMP and non medical persons inside of the state of california, notice i didn't say californians.

i guess what i am saying is this, wise up, its just a plant, it isn't really harmful, as a matter of fact 40% of your brain matter is only used for processing cannaboids, which is the next giant break in medicine coming up, so for us to punish people for marijuana is to punish them for their genetics, a nazi ideal.

lets legalise completely as a state, keep a medical program, start state conservatories and grow ops, set up shop inside the local PD to buy (meaning you get scanned for warrents everytime you go in which saves the state even more money and time) you are limited to 1.2 gram non medical usage, medical usage should be kept to maybe 3.6 grams per day.

i think grams should be weighed out to exactly 1.2 grams each and still sold as a gram, to show true compassion in the whole act. this means 3 grams = 1/8 ounce basically. sale on the streets should be punishable if this was all passed.

realistically, the whole marijuana program needs re-written, with much consideration on the ramifications of itself to begin with, there is a right way, i am seeing it in my mind but having trouble drawing enough oxygen to express it correctly.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king, thank god for pencils.


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